Pandemonium wrote:Oooh, you really got me right in the gut with Bach Mr. Dubmasta.... in a bad bad way...
For me, Bach is very very low on the list of classical important composers
Well, to be honest, you are the first person i have ever met in my life to have this opinion on Bach, but since you dont like it there is nothing wrong with that, we cant like everything. Actually Bach was not considered as a great composer when i was alive, he was not even considered good, but old fashioned, his sons were more popular than him. It was only in the modern ages that he was recognized as the greatest composer of humanity. My mom always played Chopin for me on the piano when I was a child, i have a warm feeling for that and love to play Chopin myself (really hard to play his compositions) but for a mysterious reason Bach had a special place in my heart since I was a kid an i didnt need my teachers to understand that, i just felt it inside. I really cant hear any Bach in Britney's music, if she played his cello suites or fugues in minor Id probably have her posters hanging on my walls
Classical musicians tend to say, "Bach is our mom, and he is our dad" meaning that Bach is everything about classical music, Im not a pro but i happened to study classical piano for 6 years in my childhood, I regret not going further with this but i guess it played its role. Listening to Bach and playing Bach on an instrument are two totally different things and experiences, sometimes you can feel that your soul is pumping out of your body while playing and playing Bach can easily make you cry, it has happened to me quite sometimes actually. His compositions vary from simple ones to extremely complicated fugues, people who listen to his music or studied it know that its pure and very complicated mathematics literally speaking, and polyphony of course, meaning that even if there are only 2 hands playing, there are actually many voices in there, 5 or 6 and even more, and this magic is very difficult to play. A few years ago there was some turmoil going on in my life, i stopped listening to electronica and other music completely, I only listened to baroque and especially Bach for a year if not more and had the chance to go through all his work from Lute and cello suites to well tempered clavier, french and english suites, sonatas and fugues. Cant say i like everything, not really fond of his arias really, but I love the majority of his work, especially works in minor.
Everybody has their own interpretation of music, for me personally it starts and ends with Bach and has a direct impact on my other musical preferences whether its Hendrix Im listening to, jazz, Budd, Tool or FSOL. Something I could reveal is, for some reason after the FSOL live in Athens, when it finished while i was walking away his BWV 813 Sarabande from the french suites was constantly playing in my head and i understood a lot from this, cant even describe what i felt at that moment. . .
Re: What are you listening to?
Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 3:16 am
by Pandemonium
PS - I'm not talking about ripping Bach samples off - I'm talking ripping off melody structures / lines, masked with modern production so you can barely recognize it - but the catchy lines are always there in the POP
the Beatles, the Toys, the Beach Boys, Procol Harum, and as you can see from the links, countless other pop songs (yes, at the time they were pop-music of some kind) were based on Bach.
I'm not saying he is/was bad (I'm sure not gonna try to change your opinion about him) - I'm saying he is vanilla pop compared to some more-or-less known classical composers.
Re: What are you listening to?
Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 11:02 am
by dubmasta
Im not trying to change your opinion either, everybody is free to believe what they want
Re: What are you listening to?
Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 12:45 pm
by Akkya
Re: What are you listening to?
Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 5:15 pm
by Enofa
Lifeforms
Re: What are you listening to?
Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 5:34 pm
by Pandemonium
Up, Bustle & Out
Re: What are you listening to?
Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 10:37 pm
by seedy
it's krazy
i went from thinking klaus schulze was generally boring and not for me.....to ---- > MIND BLOWN!
i've got his entire catalog pretty much......going to take quite awhile to get completely through it
what an epic journey
Re: What are you listening to?
Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 11:09 pm
by Enofa
Kraftwerk - The Man Machine
Re: What are you listening to?
Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 11:39 am
by dubmasta
Not big fan of Tangerine Dream, but after listening through Klaus Schulze discography from Irrlicht (72) to Beyond Recall (91) he instantly took his place among my electronica favorites next to Steve Roach, Robert Rich etc. Yet Jean Michel Jarre was the first composer to introduce me to electronica when i was a child, dont want to think that he became famous because of his father who was a monstrous composer, rather his own talent and work. Even though Schulze's works might sound outdated, actually they are not, i guess his music was a catalyst for electronica composers of 80's and 90's.
Thank God, a proper release from Luke Howard at last.
Essential listening for fans of melancholy piano/string music.
Re: What are you listening to?
Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 12:12 pm
by dubmasta
Never heard of him Ross, beautiful soundtrack . . .
Re: What are you listening to?
Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 1:22 pm
by Enofa
I've been following him on soundcloud for ages but he never seems to release anything.
Re: What are you listening to?
Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 5:48 pm
by Tito Lozano
Great sound ,sure is an artist to consider,thanks Ross for the reference.
Re: What are you listening to?
Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 8:42 am
by tryptych
V/A - Monsterism: Day
V/A - Monsterism: Night
Nada Surf - The Stars Are Indifferent To Astronomy (seriously, I thought they were some crappy pop band, but somehow picked this up... faaaaar from it. One of my favorite records of the last few years TBH.)
Pole Folder - S/T (really underrated trip hop, but kinda missed the time period 'tho. Very Massive Attack-ish/Recoil-ish.)
AIR - Playground Love (one of my all time top 10 tracks, causes a physical reaction every time i hear this)
AIR - (the new soundtrack, I think that AIR lost something after the Virgin Suicides period.. got colder and less "fantastic" in some way)
Tame Impala - (various stuff, they're OK. Not a big fan of the whole US hipster scene, but they poop out some pretty decent bands sometimes.)
Teenage Fanclub - Sparky's Dream (love this song)